Ableton external instrument
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No external instrument support: The full version doesn’t support external instruments, which can be a problem for users who want to add external instruments to their compositions. Conclusion In conclusion, Ableton Live is a powerful DAW that offers a range of pricing options, including Ableton Live Intro, Ableton Live Standard, Ableton Live
How To Use External Instruments With Ableton
Damian1972 Posts: 13 Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:12 pm I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help This may be a very stupid question folks but wondering if someone could assist - am working with an Access Virus hardware synth and Ableton Suite 8 , routing in on each relevant track via the Ext Instrument utility. I think I have the setup configured correctly on MIDI and Audio preferences - I am getting MIDI in and out of the Virus with no problem and recording MIDI onto tracks..However - my ability to control volume in MIDI tracks from the Virus is limited - the Gain control knob in Ext Instrument box doesnt do much - I suspect this is just normal and main way to control hardware volume is on the Virus itself...but I have tried to route Virus MIDI tracks to a Return track for effects processing with no audible effect - I should be able to apply any audio effects within Ableton to tracks from the hardware synth, right? Am I not getting the audio back in correctly so only getting the MIDI control data through or something? Getting stuck...Also would be intersted in hearing how people are controlling filter sweeps etc on hardware synths - automating curves within the software or tweaking the knobs - not sure which is most reliable... Rabalder Posts: 1089 Joined: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:03 am Location: Norway Re: I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help Post by Rabalder » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:02 am damian1972 wrote:I have tried to route Virus MIDI tracks to a Return track for effects processing with no audible effectYou cant really use audio effects for midi signals. Midi is not audio!Anyways.. Have you hooked up the audio outputs from the virus into your audio interface?Not just the midi connections..? damian1972 Posts: 13 Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:12 pm Re: I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help Post by damian1972 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:32 am I have indeed - got the audio outs going to audio in on M-Audio Delta interface and seems to be working OKI might have the wrong idea conceptually about this - should I be able to process the incoming audio from a hardware synth at clip level within Ableton using the Ableton effects such as compression,
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Audio in that way - I need to spend more time looking at recording MIDI into Ableton projects from hardware...what are your thoughts? Without being able to separate the audio parts the only solution I can see is to record as separate parts ttilberg Posts: 587 Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:55 pm Contact: Re: I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help Post by ttilberg » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:37 pm Wow, the routing possibilities seem very cool with that. Makes me want to consider getting some outboard at some point Anyway, check this dude's thread: seems to be going through the same problem you are experiencing.I'm not familiar with your sound card, but he mentions something about using USB as additional audio out signals from the Virus??? Nutso. Tim Tilberg - Duluth, MN | SoundCloud - Arsenal2011 13" MBP w/8GB ram | Live 9 Suite, Reason 6.5, FXPansion DCAM/Etch/Maul, Izotope Ozone 5 snakedogman Posts: 852 Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:04 pm Location: the Netherlands Re: I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help Post by snakedogman » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:56 pm damian1972 wrote:I'll come back to you when I get to the relevant stepat the moment Ive got an Access Virus bass patch on one Ext Instrument - routed to Audio interface MIDI output and going to MIdi channel one which is the hardware synth Part 1External Instrument two is routed to MIDI channel two via the same interfact clearly and is playing a lead sound.Audio routed to come back in via Aduio interface.Currently I cant solo the channels which I think is due to the fact Ive got the Virus stereo outputs coming in via the Audio interface standard 1/2 IN - I cant separate the audio signal into components track by track once its coming back into External instrument.So I suppose the workaround when using the hardware multitimbrally is to not use External Instrument at all, to use hardware onboard effects and effect the hardware synth sounds/volumes at source - then leave as MIDI in the Live set and render to audio in that way - I need to spend more time looking at recording MIDI into Ableton projects from hardware...what are your thoughts? Without being able to separate the audio parts the only solution I can see is to record as separate partsDoes the VirusUsing External instruments - Ableton Forum
Skip to content Expanding Sound shared a free Ableton Live Instrument, Martin HD28V Open String Ableton Instrument.Here’s what Expanding Sounds’ Mike Longo has to say about it:Besides my dabbles into sound design and Ableton production, for many years I was a guitar instructor. One of my lessons was lucky enough to own this very beautiful, (and very expensive), Martin HD28V guitar. I was given the guitar for a week to do a set up. I took the opportunity to sample it, and I am so happy I did. The low notes are incredibly rich thanks to the remarkable craftsmanship on this lovely guitar. The resonance chamber is just so lush. With the Ableton instrument you are not limited to the traditional pitches of a guitar. And this Martin HD28V handles the low bass notes with ease.When designing the Ableton Instrument, I decided to use all open string samples. It almost gives the Martin a harpsichord feel, or open tuning vibe as you play full chords. It was very easy to be inspired by the sound. Right away I found myself working on new jams.Hope you enjoy it. I think it sounds awesome. Watch my little jam video I made for the pack, a little lullaby piece that puts me in a great mellow mood. All sounds (besides the kick drum) were made using this Martin HD28V Ableton Instrument!It’s a free download at the Expanding Sound site. Post navigation. No external instrument support: The full version doesn’t support external instruments, which can be a problem for users who want to add external instruments to their compositions. Conclusion In conclusion, Ableton Live is a powerful DAW that offers a range of pricing options, including Ableton Live Intro, Ableton Live Standard, Ableton LiveExternal Instrument Trouble - Ableton Forum
Have more than one stereo output? Does your interface have more than one stereo input? You will need seperate in- and outputs in order to be able to have seperate patches from your Virus on seperate channels in Ableton. damian1972 Posts: 13 Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:12 pm Re: I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help Post by damian1972 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:53 pm ttilberg wrote:Wow, the routing possibilities seem very cool with that. Makes me want to consider getting some outboard at some point Anyway, check this dude's thread: seems to be going through the same problem you are experiencing.I'm not familiar with your sound card, but he mentions something about using USB as additional audio out signals from the Virus??? Nutso.Virus KC (2002) is pre USB Im afraid - its traditional stereo out only damian1972 Posts: 13 Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:12 pm Re: I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help Post by damian1972 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:57 pm snakedogman wrote:damian1972 wrote:I'll come back to you when I get to the relevant stepat the moment Ive got an Access Virus bass patch on one Ext Instrument - routed to Audio interface MIDI output and going to MIdi channel one which is the hardware synth Part 1External Instrument two is routed to MIDI channel two via the same interfact clearly and is playing a lead sound.Audio routed to come back in via Aduio interface.Currently I cant solo the channels which I think is due to the fact Ive got the Virus stereo outputs coming in via the Audio interface standard 1/2 IN - I cant separate the audio signal into components track by track once its coming back into External instrument.So I suppose the workaround when using the hardware multitimbrally is to not use External Instrument at all, to use hardware onboard effects and effect the hardware synth sounds/volumes at source - then leave as MIDI in the Live set and render to audio in that way - I need to spend more time looking at recording MIDI into Ableton projects from hardware...what are your thoughts? Without being able to separate the audio parts the only solution I can see is to record as separate partsDoes the Virus have more than one stereo output? Does your interface have more than one stereo input? You willExternal Instrument plugin - Ableton Forum
Seambo Posts: 3 Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:17 am How do I use Apple Logic instruments with Ableton live? I am wondering if someone might be able to help me figure out how I can use the instruments in Apple Logic with Ableton live.Apple Logic has good synthesizers like the EXS24, ES2, EVP88 etc...Is it possible to use these fine instruments in Ableton Live?If so, could you please help me understand how to do it?I want to be able to use it like a VST plug-in.Thank you for your time!Cheers-Nathan fidelitarean Posts: 29 Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:33 am Re: How do I use Apple Logic instruments with Ableton live? Post by fidelitarean » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:09 am You can purchase Apples Mainstage from the app store and use it as an external instrument to Ableton. This gives you access to all the Logic instruments and includes all the loops (many gigs) and patches that come with Logic but for about $30 - an incredible deal. Seambo Posts: 3 Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:17 am Re: How do I use Apple Logic instruments with Ableton live? Post by Seambo » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:59 pm Thank you so much for the replies. When I bought Apple Logic it came with Mainstage 2 and I do have Mainstage as an app on my computer...in my Applications folder. It is great news to hear that I can use it as an external instrument for Ableton Live but I do not know where to begin on setting it up to be recognized by Ableton.If you have any hints or if there are already tutorials on this that shows me the steps I would greatly appreciate any tips on where I should begin.Thank you again for your help.Cheers-Nathan antarktika Posts: 1006 Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:54 am Re: How do I use Apple Logic instruments with Ableton live? Post by antarktika » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:32 pm Mainstage is a rewire master, not a slave, so you would not be able to control it from within Live. You can, however, play instruments from Logic, and record the audio into Live by opening Live first, then Logic, which prevents it from establishing a rewire connection (which would severely limit Live's usability), and use Soundflower or Jack to route the audio into Live for recording. Seambo Posts: 3 Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:17 am Re: How do I use Apple Logic instruments with Ableton live? Post by Seambo » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:50 pm Soundflower. Yes. Thank you so much for your input. I am successful. I appreciate your time in helping me. Cheers-Nathan jonniesparko Posts: 16 Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:53 pm Location: Miami, Fl. Contact: Re: How do I use Apple Logic instruments with Ableton live? Post by jonniesparko » Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:40 pm I know I’m super late to this party, but to follow up here, it doesn’t sound likeExternal instrument device - Ableton Forum
Press ReleaseJune 4th, 2004Ableton Announces Live 4Berlin, Germany — Ableton proudly presents Live 4, Ableton's most significant release to date. Live 4 extends Live's real-time music-making approach to the complete range of today's music-production techniques.In Live 4, users will find a complete and inspiring approach to MIDI sequencing, pattern recording, drag-and-drop sampling, virtual instruments and MIDI hardware support. Ableton has also made substantial extensions and enhancements to existing functionality, including such features as swing/groove for audio and MIDI clips, a powerful new channel-routing scheme, simplified recording, sample reverse, and several exciting new creative options for the Session View."In creating Live 4, we faced the challenge of adding our most requested features, while keeping Live simple, solid and inspiring to use," says Ableton CEO Gerhard Behles. "The new functionality simultaneously widens Live's scope and strengthens the qualities that make the program stand out. We would like to express our gratitude to the Live users who urged us to make this happen, and to make it happen in the right way."New Live 4 Features include:MIDI Tracks, Effects and Instruments. MIDI sequencing in Live has been designed to get the user started within seconds. Software instruments appear in Live's built-in Browser. Dragging an instrument from the Browser into the mixer creates a MIDI track containing that instrument, ready to play and record. MIDI effects and audio effects can instantly be inserted into the same track by dragging, with no need for menus or abstract routing concepts. The signal flow within the track is intuitively set up by drag and drop. The Track View provides instant access to all instrument and effects controls.Live 4 also includes the 'Simpler' sampling instrument, which allows for instant sampling, polyphonic playback and creative exploration of any sound dragged into its display. 'Impulse' is a polyphonic percussion sampler with drag-and-drop sample import and powerful and innovative sound-shaping controls. In addition, Live hosts any VST or Audio Units (Mac OS X only) plug-in instruments. MIDI tracks with no software instrument can deliver MIDI to external hardware synthesizers, ReWire client programs or other MIDI tracks in Live. Live 4 also includes 5 MIDI effects. The 'Scale' effect, for instance, forces incoming notes onto a chosen musical scale and fits well with 'Random,' which creates random deviations in note pitch.MIDI Clips. MIDI clips are created by recording or by dragging in Standard MIDI files from Live's Browser. Notes can be viewed, created and edited in the Clip View's Note Editor. When Draw Mode is engaged, the Note Editor behaves like a drum-pattern interface, where a pattern step is set or cleared by a single click, and flams are created by dragging across multiple steps. Unlike a static drum grid or step sequencer,. No external instrument support: The full version doesn’t support external instruments, which can be a problem for users who want to add external instruments to their compositions. Conclusion In conclusion, Ableton Live is a powerful DAW that offers a range of pricing options, including Ableton Live Intro, Ableton Live Standard, Ableton LiveComments
Damian1972 Posts: 13 Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:12 pm I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help This may be a very stupid question folks but wondering if someone could assist - am working with an Access Virus hardware synth and Ableton Suite 8 , routing in on each relevant track via the Ext Instrument utility. I think I have the setup configured correctly on MIDI and Audio preferences - I am getting MIDI in and out of the Virus with no problem and recording MIDI onto tracks..However - my ability to control volume in MIDI tracks from the Virus is limited - the Gain control knob in Ext Instrument box doesnt do much - I suspect this is just normal and main way to control hardware volume is on the Virus itself...but I have tried to route Virus MIDI tracks to a Return track for effects processing with no audible effect - I should be able to apply any audio effects within Ableton to tracks from the hardware synth, right? Am I not getting the audio back in correctly so only getting the MIDI control data through or something? Getting stuck...Also would be intersted in hearing how people are controlling filter sweeps etc on hardware synths - automating curves within the software or tweaking the knobs - not sure which is most reliable... Rabalder Posts: 1089 Joined: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:03 am Location: Norway Re: I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help Post by Rabalder » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:02 am damian1972 wrote:I have tried to route Virus MIDI tracks to a Return track for effects processing with no audible effectYou cant really use audio effects for midi signals. Midi is not audio!Anyways.. Have you hooked up the audio outputs from the virus into your audio interface?Not just the midi connections..? damian1972 Posts: 13 Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:12 pm Re: I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help Post by damian1972 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:32 am I have indeed - got the audio outs going to audio in on M-Audio Delta interface and seems to be working OKI might have the wrong idea conceptually about this - should I be able to process the incoming audio from a hardware synth at clip level within Ableton using the Ableton effects such as compression,
2025-03-25Audio in that way - I need to spend more time looking at recording MIDI into Ableton projects from hardware...what are your thoughts? Without being able to separate the audio parts the only solution I can see is to record as separate parts ttilberg Posts: 587 Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:55 pm Contact: Re: I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help Post by ttilberg » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:37 pm Wow, the routing possibilities seem very cool with that. Makes me want to consider getting some outboard at some point Anyway, check this dude's thread: seems to be going through the same problem you are experiencing.I'm not familiar with your sound card, but he mentions something about using USB as additional audio out signals from the Virus??? Nutso. Tim Tilberg - Duluth, MN | SoundCloud - Arsenal2011 13" MBP w/8GB ram | Live 9 Suite, Reason 6.5, FXPansion DCAM/Etch/Maul, Izotope Ozone 5 snakedogman Posts: 852 Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:04 pm Location: the Netherlands Re: I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help Post by snakedogman » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:56 pm damian1972 wrote:I'll come back to you when I get to the relevant stepat the moment Ive got an Access Virus bass patch on one Ext Instrument - routed to Audio interface MIDI output and going to MIdi channel one which is the hardware synth Part 1External Instrument two is routed to MIDI channel two via the same interfact clearly and is playing a lead sound.Audio routed to come back in via Aduio interface.Currently I cant solo the channels which I think is due to the fact Ive got the Virus stereo outputs coming in via the Audio interface standard 1/2 IN - I cant separate the audio signal into components track by track once its coming back into External instrument.So I suppose the workaround when using the hardware multitimbrally is to not use External Instrument at all, to use hardware onboard effects and effect the hardware synth sounds/volumes at source - then leave as MIDI in the Live set and render to audio in that way - I need to spend more time looking at recording MIDI into Ableton projects from hardware...what are your thoughts? Without being able to separate the audio parts the only solution I can see is to record as separate partsDoes the Virus
2025-04-03Have more than one stereo output? Does your interface have more than one stereo input? You will need seperate in- and outputs in order to be able to have seperate patches from your Virus on seperate channels in Ableton. damian1972 Posts: 13 Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:12 pm Re: I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help Post by damian1972 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:53 pm ttilberg wrote:Wow, the routing possibilities seem very cool with that. Makes me want to consider getting some outboard at some point Anyway, check this dude's thread: seems to be going through the same problem you are experiencing.I'm not familiar with your sound card, but he mentions something about using USB as additional audio out signals from the Virus??? Nutso.Virus KC (2002) is pre USB Im afraid - its traditional stereo out only damian1972 Posts: 13 Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:12 pm Re: I may be using External Instrument wrongly - can anyone help Post by damian1972 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:57 pm snakedogman wrote:damian1972 wrote:I'll come back to you when I get to the relevant stepat the moment Ive got an Access Virus bass patch on one Ext Instrument - routed to Audio interface MIDI output and going to MIdi channel one which is the hardware synth Part 1External Instrument two is routed to MIDI channel two via the same interfact clearly and is playing a lead sound.Audio routed to come back in via Aduio interface.Currently I cant solo the channels which I think is due to the fact Ive got the Virus stereo outputs coming in via the Audio interface standard 1/2 IN - I cant separate the audio signal into components track by track once its coming back into External instrument.So I suppose the workaround when using the hardware multitimbrally is to not use External Instrument at all, to use hardware onboard effects and effect the hardware synth sounds/volumes at source - then leave as MIDI in the Live set and render to audio in that way - I need to spend more time looking at recording MIDI into Ableton projects from hardware...what are your thoughts? Without being able to separate the audio parts the only solution I can see is to record as separate partsDoes the Virus have more than one stereo output? Does your interface have more than one stereo input? You will
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