2003 ballon dor

The ballon dor triumphs of Johan Cruyff in 1974,Ruud gullit in 1987 and Marco Van basten in 19893 undisputed ballon dor wins for one small country with a relatively small population of 17 million is ALOTFrance with a population of approx 67 million has maybe 1 or 2 undisputed ballon dors1984 for Michel platini and maybe also 1983Zidanes 1998 ballon dor is widely contested while someone can argue for Diego maradonas case for 1984/1985 based on his Dbs Calcio ratings and demolition job on some of the worst teams in serie A history (ie Lazio)Everything else can rightfully be disputedand that includes the 1988 ballon dor of van basten (his injuries and consequently limited game time)The 1992 ballon dor of Marco Van basten(inflated by a gargantuan amount of penalties and a 4 goal haul against a sub par Göteborg in the inaugural champions League groupstages)Hristo Stoichkov was evidently superior IMO and the opinion of many othersThe 1972 would be ballon dor of Johan CruyffAlthough fantastic and would be my personal choice one can't dismiss the fact gerd Muller scored 151 goals in 100 matches including friendlies soon if not already you'll be accused of undervaluing Dutch players tooClarence seedorf and his conversion to the "bloodthirsty ideology of islamism" imagine you singing his praises any longer seeing as he has joined the 'dark side' Feb 28, 2017 Club: Montevideo Wanderers FC I am intrigued to know what his historical top ten is and in what position he places Johan Cruyff. Jan 11, 2016 Club: Real Madrid The seasonal placement of Ronaldo nazario is very oddHe played significantly more minutes in 1994/95 and scored/provided significantly more goals/assists then in 1995/96When has there ever been a player who participates in 13 League matches and is the MVP of Europe?Would Lionel Messi win the ballon dor with 12 goals in 13 la liga matches and 6 goals in 5 UEFA cup matches(including 4 goals in one match Vs MYPA whoever the heck that is) a complete insult to the other contenders and the equivalence is false anywaysR9 1995/96 scored 12 goals in 13 eredivisie

A slightly under-strength or under-performing on the day Manchester United...but nevertheless the double winning club from the time when lower placed Arsenal did well in European competitions, indicating the view that English clubs had fallen way behind should be a bit nuanced I think). Mar 8, 2009 Club: Nottingham Forest FC Yeah, they won vs Barcelona too of course in 94/95 (it could be fairly said Barcelona were declined from the previous seasons I think, but again still a very notable result), and in the 92/93 season in question they did basically finish joint 3rd/4th, and outside of those Van Basten goals in that match Ravelli's net wasn't entered many times at all in that final group stage to decide a finalist. Jan 11, 2016 Club: Real Madrid Schalke finished 3rd place in the 2013/14 bundesligaUnless you are suggesting the bundesliga is so crap that the champions of Sweden would make their top 4 this is just an outlandish statementNotwithstanding the fact the 4 goal haul against Göteborg in the champions League groupstages was a significant factor when it came to his ballon dor credentialsIt would be like zlatan ibrahimovic winning the 2013 ballon dor for thisAnderlecht is a much closer comparison to Goteborg then it is to any periodic top 4 team in a major European leaguejust addressing this brieflyMore important then this is the incessant crying of puckvanheel for a decade about Dutch players Jan 11, 2016 Club: Real Madrid Jean Pierre papin"Van Basten won the Ballon d’Or on the back of scoring two hat tricks in one week with AC Milan. One against Gothenburg in the Champions League and then one in Naples in the league.” bastens own teammate in 1992/93 if I recall correctly and a ballon dor winner himselfA person more qualified to give context to this then anyone hereNapoli were close to a relegation battle in 1992/93 and Göteborg the champions of Sweden a modern day perspective no one could win a ballon dor for destroying these level teamsTheir chances would be completely ridiculed in the media Mar 8, 2009 Club: Nottingham Forest FC

MatchesThe eredivisie mind youNothing remotely out of the ordinary about thisWhatever wonders Ajax were achieving in the mini era of van gaal during the mid nineties the league as a whole was still demonstrably inferior to the ones of Serie A and la Liga in particularBefore 1996/97 the highest placement R9 should have is 5th place in 1994/95An 18 year old with 30 League goals in a relatively sub par League is still a remarkable 18 year oldThis is despite the fact he was still a raw and unpolished prospectHis all round game absolutely nowhere near what he showed at inter milan for exampleYou could maybe compare his 94/95 season to mbappe in 2017/18For 1995/96 Ronaldo nazario shouldnt be anywhere near a ballon dor podium let alone first placeLastlyAs been mentioned previously many times if the ballon dor was judged to be a yearly award as opposed to a seasonal one I'm ok with R9 even finishing ahead of sammer in 1996What Ronaldo nazario did in October 1996 was a footballing 'miracle' and arguably something no had previously replicated in Europe's top 5 leagues Certainly not in terms of quality neither gerd Muller ,van basten not even Diego maradonaThat was in la Liga however not the eredivisie. Mar 8, 2009 Club: Nottingham Forest FC I'm understanding Titanlux's approach now after our messages, and I'd say it's basically an 18 month approach (taking into account both season and calendar year in aggregate), but to be fair I think it is useful for IceBlood to see because it is like an amalgamation of various official/popular sources (Titanlux did say it is pretty much purely that and he tries to keep his own perceptions and opinions out of it).Gothenburg of the early to mid 90s were better than Galatasary or Schalke of 2013/2014 though Carlito, I think it's fair to say (maybe they hadn't peaked at the time of the 'Van Basten' match, but they did ok overall in that years CL games and then went on to for example have a good win vs Manchester United in the same kind of period...perhaps

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